Friday, September 23, 2005

UNLV Fixin' Rebs?

Da Realist:

is USC TROJANS the 2005 college football version of 1991 UNLV RUNNING REBELS? and if they are, is there a college football version of DUKE?

Gangsta D:

Only if there are enough Trojans willing to throw the game. Yeah I saidit!!!!

Da Realist:

WHOA!!! as lee corso would say, "i say nothing!"

Gangsta D:

Two UNLV players are caught in a pic with a known fixer and there's all this hullabaloo about the Rebs and gambling. Yet NOBODY even deigns to suggest they threw that game...in which they were overwhelming favorites. Think the people that bet on Duke made some money off that game? Come on! The fix was in, but no one wants to bring it up because it would diminsh Coach K. UNLV was messing up that whole game. They didn't play UNLV ball. It wasn't anything that Duke was doing. But that was 14 years ago and I digress...

Da Realist:

:-) funny. you got to let it go, man. that unlv team had never been tested before. that game was the first time they ever felt any pressure. they were in big games that year (most notable a #1 vs #2 matchup with my beloved hogs in fayetteville that i kept skipping out of church to catch in glimpses across the street at a chinese corner market store...don't tell mom) but they slaughtered the opponent every time. unlv had some players like larry johnson, anderson hunt, greg anthony and stacy augmen. but duke had grant hill, christian laettner, bobby hurley, thomas hill and andrew lang...not exactly chopped liver. let it go...

Gangsta D:

Oh I'm over it, but the game was still thrown and no one will ever convince me otherwise. If you take that game and compare it to the Arkansas game(which i couldn't skip out of church cause we're in the cut) you'll see two totally different UNLV teams. But like I said, I digress...

Waldini:

I dont care what anyone says, UNLV threw that game. I mean think about it. They won the title the year before, and the next year they were undefeated going into the tournament. What do you think the oddsmakers were betting that UNLV would repeat? Its like that classic episode of South Park where Satan took on Jesus in a boxing match. Everybody betted against Jesus b/c they thought Satan would pummel Jesus. So what did Satan do? He threw the fight!! And no Realist, I dont think Duke is Jesus in disguise or Satan is UNLV, etc etc etc

Gangsta D:

thank you. I see someone else isn't drinking the kool-aid.

Da Realist:

this is just too funny. what have any of the unlv players done since then to prove they are/were clutch and could handle the intense pressure of a close game against an opponent that wouldn't back down? larry johnson was the best player on that team, but he's a muscular version of chris webber. stacy augmen was a defensive specialist, but couldn't really create his own shot. greg anthony was erratic at best. andersen hunt...he was ok. this team won on athletic ability and intimidation. they didn't even play anybody that year except arkansas and a bunch of fresno states! and i can tell you first hand that arkansas was scared. most teams were scared before getting off the bus. in fact, DUKE was scared the year before in the final game. this is why they lost by 30 points! duke had all year to ponder that 30 point loss. all year.

i'm no duke fan, but you had to respect their resolve back in the early 90's. they were well-coached and they had heart. they were the only team NOT to back down from unlv. they slowed the tempo and force unlv to actually run plays (which is not a strong point of any jerry tarkanian team). they forced unlv to play disciplined defense for the whole shot clock (again, another liability of jerry's boys). their weaknesses were exposed. contrary to what you probably believe, i hated duke and wanted badly for unlv to win. but they lost, plain and simple. this duke team went on to win the championship this year AND the next year. this was not nc state beating fly slamma jamma (university of houston). this christian laettner-led team was not a fluke.

so you two believe unlv threw the game. did tyson throw his match to buster douglas? did oklahoma, when pundits called them the greatest team ever, throw the game to kansas state in the big 12 championship? unlv threw the game....but don't let someone even mention there may have been a conspiracy involved with game 6 of the 2002 conference finals between LA and sacramento. as a wise man once said, "WINNERS WIN AND LOSERS LOSE!!!"

Gangsta D:

Has Tyson ever been pictured with a fight fixer...I mean other than DonKing? Has anyone at OU been pictured with gamblers? UNLV's program got dismantled due to that picture, but NO WAY IN THE WORLD would they have thrown the game against Duke which they were heavily favored? Come on! But like I said, I am truly over it. But, you will never convince me that game wasn't fixed...

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