Thursday, May 29, 2008

Ginobli Is Officially On Notice

Gangsta D:

Obviously something needs to be done about the incessant flopping. But fines? Is that kosher? How about two shots and the ball? That seems more reasonable. Fining just seems kind of silly, cause it's done after the game. I don't know that that will really curtail flopping, when it's a subjective punishment to be administered at a later date.

The league office has yet to determine exact fine amounts for offending flops and how fines might escalate for repeat offenders, but in-game arena observers and video reviewers will be instructed to report instances of theatrical flopping for potential punishment as part of postgame reports on officiating and other matters.

I think it's better than nothing. It's gotten way out of control. At least the league is acknowledging that it's a problem. In the last Spurs-Lakers game, you could see players on both sides flopping for no reason.

Could you imagine if this had been in place in the 90s? Vlade Divac and most of the Jazz squads would be broke :-)

Gangsta D:

Maybe. It'll be interesting to see what's considered excessive or not. Plus, what kind of fines players will receive. But will refs still call the flops? Just because a guy may get fined after the game, doesn't mean he won't still flop, and if the ref calls an offensive foul that turns the momentum of the game it's money well spent. I still say two shots and the ball is a better punishment, but we shall see how it plays out.


One thing's for sure, those European players (Manu, Sasha, Dirk, etc) are in trouble.

Gangsta D:

Sasha doesn't flop. He just has bad coordination sometimes:)

Da Realist:

No fines. Just tell the refs to let them play ball. It's not that hard. When you see Tim Duncan falling to the ground after barely being touched, assume it was a flop. When you see Derek Fisher flying across the floor, assume it was a flop. Don't make the calls.

Does the NBA not have enough faith in their own refs?

Gangsta D:

Does the NBA not have enough faith in their own refs? Of course not! Have you not been paying attention? lol


Jdubb said...

I play semi pro basketball in Europe..let me tell you, its craaaaaaaaazy with the flopping. The constant flopping adds at least 20-30 minutes of extra time to every game because of stoppages.. I am about 6ft, 210lb PG/SG...there is no way, I am knocking someone over who is 6'8 275lb, let alone, knocking him 8 feet on his backside...What I do, if you flop, I keep going through. you will get tired of me stepping on your chest, fingers , heads..after 3 or 4 times, you know you better man up with me

Gangsta D said...

That's dope. I bet they will get tired of it:)

How long you been playing in Europe?

jdubb said...

since 2002...did not play at all last season and half..torn my knee up something good

kosher? jew said...

did someone really ask if that was kosher? flopping is ruining the nba. it's turning into the nhl, soon to be gone nhl.

Great Waldini said...

it's been going on since Laimbeer was doing it in the late 80s/early 90s. Back then though, he was one of few that did it. Now it's like a disease the league can't shake. Hopefully these fines will start to "cure" that problem.